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Message de alexiagbr posté le 19-10-2022 à 16:23:42 (S | E | F)
Hi Guys Hello,
I hope you're fine 😀 I have a question concerning the past simple and present perfect.
If I say, for example :
First example: I have forgotten (or I forgot) my phone at your place. Can you bring it to me tomorrow ?
Second example : What has happened OR what happened ?
Which one is correct? What is the best way to say it?
For the first example, for me it's "I have forgotten" because there is a consequence in the present, but I'm not sure ....
But in the second one I have no idea of which sentence is good....
It's why I am asking you guys
thank you in advance for your help
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Modifié par lucile83 le 19-10-2022 22:16
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Message de alexiagbr posté le 19-10-2022 à 16:23:42 (S | E | F)
I hope you're fine 😀 I have a question concerning the past simple and present perfect.
If I say, for example :
First example: I have forgotten (or I forgot) my phone at your place. Can you bring it to me tomorrow ?
Second example : What has happened OR what happened ?
Which one is correct? What is the best way to say it?
For the first example, for me it's "I have forgotten" because there is a consequence in the present, but I'm not sure ....
But in the second one I have no idea of which sentence is good....
It's why I am asking you guys
thank you in advance for your help ------------------
Modifié par lucile83 le 19-10-2022 22:16
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Réponse : Forgot / have forgotten de gerold, postée le 19-10-2022 à 21:00:52 (S | E)
Bonjour alexiagbr
First example: I have forgotten (or I forgot) my phone at your place. Can you bring it to me tomorrow ?
Normalement, il faut employer le present perfect : je n'ai plus mon téléphone, c'est bien une une conséquence pour le présent. Cependant, en
, il y a une tendance à employer le prétérit dans tous les cas (exemple à ne pas suivre). Je me demande cependant si cette phrase sonne juste à des oreilles britanniques. D'après Michael Swan, Practical English Usage, point 209, on n'emploie "normalement" pas to forget lorsqu'un endroit est mentionné ("at your place") et il faudrait donc dire I have left my phone .... D'autres avis seraient les bienvenus.
Second example : What has happened OR what happened ?
Dans l'absolu, en l'absence de tout contexte, les deux sont possibles. Si je vois un accident de la route qui vient de se produire, je demanderais "what has happened?, mais si je veux savoir ce qui s'est passé le 14 juillet 1789, je dirais "What happened?"
Réponse : Forgot / have forgotten de lucile83, postée le 19-10-2022 à 22:22:29 (S | E)
Hello,
Oui 'I have left my phone' est correct par rapport à 'forgotten'.
We forget to post a letter, to buy the newspaper, to lock the door, etc. but we leave things in the bus, the train,etc.
Hope it helps.
Réponse : Forgot / have forgotten de alexiagbr, postée le 20-10-2022 à 12:15:24 (S | E)
Hello Gerold, Lucile83,
Thank you very much for your help !! It helps me a lot !! 😀😀
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