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Message from lemage posted on 13-09-2013 at 15:46:37 (D | E | F)
Hi,
I picked up a phrase from bicycle forum ;
"Having had both experiences, here is my perspective after some years of cycling.".
Can you help me about the sentence "Having had"?
I can easily undestand but what is this grammar rule?
Thanks
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Edited by lucile83 on 13-09-2013 18:45
Message from lemage posted on 13-09-2013 at 15:46:37 (D | E | F)
Hi,
I picked up a phrase from bicycle forum ;
"Having had both experiences, here is my perspective after some years of cycling.".
Can you help me about the sentence "Having had"?
I can easily undestand but what is this grammar rule?
Thanks
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Edited by lucile83 on 13-09-2013 18:45
Re: Having had /kind of past from margarita89, posted on 13-09-2013 at 16:41:21 (D | E)
Hello,
I think it's called the 'historic present'? this is my explanation: I had a vision, then it must be, "Having had a vision, ..."Here, "having" is the present participle, and "had" is the participle. I don't think it should be used, there are other options, but because you're referring to a past event the 'had' is used.
Hope you understand.
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Edited by lucile83 on 13-09-2013 18:48
Re: Having had /kind of past from gerondif, posted on 13-09-2013 at 17:18:07 (D | E)
Hello
Having had both experiences, here is my perspective after some years of cycling.".
It means:
I have had (present perfect)both experiences and so, here is my perspective......
It is just a present perfect transformed into a past ing form, a sort of present participle in the past.
Re: Having had /kind of past from bluestar, posted on 13-09-2013 at 17:24:04 (D | E)
Hello,
The form is 'having + past participle' to indicate that the situation described in the second (finite) clause is a consequence of the participle clause (which is non-finite)..
Here are some other examples:
Having run the marathon, we were exhausted.
Having written to him, I expected a reply.
Having answered the phone, she waited for the caller to speak.
However, the example you give is ungrammatical, since there is no subject in the second clause for the participle clause to be attached to. ("My perspective" can't have had "both experiences")...So the sentence, to be grammatical, should read something like: Having had both experiences, I can give you my perspective etc.)..
As it stands, the participle clause here is known as a "dangling modifier" since it is not attached to any subject.
Re: Having had /kind of past from lemage, posted on 14-09-2013 at 08:58:57 (D | E)
I read the thread this Saturday morning before riding my bicycle, thank you so much for these grammatical tips.
I will ride straighter!
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Edited by lucile83 on 14-09-2013 09:46
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